Spoilers! A discussion

Don’t let that title fool you! I’m not giving you any spoilers in this post (well, aside from spoilers on how to avoid spoilers–if you don’t want to know how to avoid spoilers in books, turn back now!!!)
Anyways, hey everyone I’m back again because after not posting for 1.5 weeks I’m now posting a whole bunch!
Once again, I’m here with a discussion post that April @Booked Till Midnight and I collaborated on (you can find our discussion post on retellings here and here!). We’ll each post half the discussion on our blogs, just like last time, and I’m super excited to share this post that we’ve put together all about spoilers! You do not necessarily have to read both parts of the post in order to understand either one but please head on over and check out April’s post anyways because over there you’ll find even more ideas about spoilers! You can find her post here.
Let’s jump right into it!

How do you avoid spoilers?

Phoenix: Well, as we will talk about/have talked about (go check out April’s post for more details!), you can avoid goodreads summaries. 

April: Ugh Goodreads summaries are the bane of my existence. Not to be dramatic or anything.

Phoenix: Some other things that you can do are avoid talking to people who are obsessed with the book (and I’m sure they will be EXTREMELY annoyed about that), and DEFINITELY don’t tell people what part you’re at, unless you want the ‘oooh, are you at this part? (proceeds to give a spoiler because you are not, in fact, at that part yet)’

Be careful with the reviews you read before you read the book. Sometimes, it can be good to read reviews to see some different opinions on the book before you start it, but there are times when review writers can leave spoilers that they don’t mean to, or that they don’t realize are spoilers.

April: *shutters* Reading that entire spoiler-minefield of a paragraph hurt my heart a little bit. The flashbacks to the gut-wrenching spoilers I have seen *shutters again*

Twitter is where I have been spoiled the most. I mean bookish social media in general is always dicey, especially when it comes to a popular book, but Twitter especially has been far to spoil-y to me in the past.
Most recently with Rule of Wolves. I literally don’t know why or how, but people were posting spoilers before the book even released. Like, what?!?!  I was in the middle of my Grishaverse read, cause the show and everything, and the absolute pain— y’all I can even. It hurt my very being. Spoiler warnings are your friends, kindly use them.

Will getting spoiled cause you to not read a book?

I will almost certainly still read a book even if I’ve been spoiled for it (once I finish groveling in the painto my soul). If anything, it makes me more curious because now I know this thing–how can I walk away from this book now? Of course, this does not mean that I WANT to be spoiled for a book. Also, if I’m spoiled for a book I have no intention of reading, I won’t pick it up. As long as my will to finish the book is greater than the soul-crushing nature of the spoilers, I’m a go.

What are the effects of spoilers?

If I am spoiled for a book, I will probably spend most of the book looking towards that thing. This sometimes hurts my enjoyment of the rest of the book, given that I’m searching for this part and might not pay as much attention to the other parts of the book. Spoilers give expectations, for the lack of a better word, that definitely affect enjoyment of the book. Sometimes for the better, and sometimes for the worse. I will say that if you sit on the edge of your seat the entire time waiting, waiting, building up hope, dreams, and expectations the chances of letdown of HIGH. 
Also, procrastination. I will probably put off reading the book a bit longer too just because I know things and that element of surprise of hold the phone, WHAT?? is gone.

What else counts as a spoiler?

Lists are my best friend. May I present to you Two More Things That Are Spoilers, But I Don’t Know Where To Include Them So Here Is a List… 

  • Death will always be a spoiler for me. 
  • Knowledge of painful endings will always be a spoiler for me 

I also think that little hints about things that the MC figures out throughout the book are spoilers. Sometimes I see them in goodreads synopses and THAT is something that really annoys me. My best example would have to be in Not Your Sidekick, a superhero story. In the summary, it says something (in spoilers below) that isn’t actually acknowledged until about 200 pages in the book and it’s a really big hint.

The thing it says:

the mysterious “M,” who never seems to be in the same place as Abby.

And that’s it for this post! If you need another reminder: please go check out April’s half of this post to read even more on spoilers. What’d you think of this post? What do you think are and aren’t spoilers? Please, let me know in the comments! I’d love to hear from you!
As always, stay safe and keep on reading!

31 thoughts on “Spoilers! A discussion

  1. Ahh no I was spoiled for Rule of wolves too, but it’s entirely my fault as I kept reading through the spoiler warnings…I’m not on any bookish social media but I really need to stop reading spoilery reviews before reading a book. Great post!!

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    1. Haha yeah, reading through spoiler warnings is something that I’m always tempted to do, it’s just so….curiosity invoking! Like there are people saying something that they’re hiding from you! What is it???? Thanks for stopping by, I’m glad you enjoyed!

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      1. Well, I hope that you get to it soon! It’s definitely an interesting book, it’s obviously very controversial because of the return of a certain character at the very end of King of Scars (wait–you’ve read KoS, right???) and some other things but overall I found it to be a pretty good wrap up of the duology.

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      2. Ahh yes I’m pretty mad at that fact but not much because the book is awesome too. (Im reading the book right now but ive already spoiled myself for that too so no worries there) Plus the main character is Nikolai, so…
        Haha I’ve got a really bad relationship with spoilers

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      3. Yeah, I mean it’s sad that that person died, but personally I do see why Bardugo did it…like she went through nearly 3 book serieses all with interconnected main characters (I mean not really, but you know, there’s obviously a lot of Shadow and Bone characters in King of Scars) and no one important to the plot/book had died so far despite the fact that they’re in the middle of several wars…it’s just not that realistic. People get annoyed when deaths in fantasy/scifi/dystopian don’t ‘mean anything’ or move the plot forwards, but I mean…people die. Death doesn’t like move life forwards or whatever, it’s just a thing that happens. It doesn’t have to move any plot forwards.
        Yes, Nikolai is mainly the reason I read King of Scars–though I actually ended up loving Nina a lot more in these books too!
        Don’t we all….spoilers are just the bane of all readers’ existences.

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  2. Awesome post, I hate it when I get spoiled! I’ve been avoiding Pinterest and tumblr since the SaB show released, and since Rule Of Wolves stuff has been buzzing around, and I do the same before any of my anticipated book release, especially if i’s part of a series.

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    1. Thank you, I’m glad you enjoyed! Aaah yeah book social media is probably the best way to get spoiled–I don’t have any so I’m really glad about that! Yeah, that’s probably smart, I have no self restraint so perhaps it’s good that I don’t have social media because I’d ALWAYS get spoiled.

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    1. I agree! Oh my gosh, that is an amazing way to stop people from annoying you, honestly. I still spoil TV shows for people, not even when they’re annoying me but just…accidentally…I’m pretty sure I spoiled the ENTIRE JATP show for my sister and she’s very annoyed at me now.
      Thank you!

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  3. For me, spoilers are both bane and boon. When I’m thinking about DNFing a book but really, really want to know what happens at the end, I turn to spoilers. I absolutely did this for The Twillight series. It was too long and boring for me to read.

    Some other things that you can do are avoid talking to people who are obsessed with the book (and I’m sure they will be EXTREMELY annoyed about that), and DEFINITELY don’t tell people what part you’re at, unless you want the ‘oooh, are you at this part? (proceeds to give a spoiler because you are not, in fact, at that part yet)’

    This part is sooooo true and relatable. I have actually experienced this and unfortunately knew before I read the book that Dumbledore dies in The Half- Blood Prince. Spoilers is one of the ways I irritate my friends when I want to retaliate 😂.
    This is a great post. I loved it.

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    1. Oooh, that’s true, yeah spoiling yourself instead of reading a story that you don’t want to is definitely a time when spoilers can be useful! Haha I’ve never picked up Twilight, I don’t want to put myself through that.

      Oh my gosh I feel like everyone knows that Dumbledore dies before they read that haha. I certainly did, and so did my sister (though that might have been my fault). The thing that annoys me the most is when I ask someone what part they’re at in a book I’ve read and they tell me the page number and then I don’t want to be like ‘are you at that part’ because spoilers obviously, but also I haven’t memorized what happens on every single page in the book, guys. Haha yeah threatening to spoil someone is so evil but yes. Sometimes I even threaten to spoil MYSELF if my friends don’t tell me something, they will literally usually tell me.

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      1. Oh I *am* that friend, lol. Just today my bestie was reading Clockwork Prince and I literally sent her this: I am GOING to tell you who Tessa ends up with regardless of how much you protest. And yes I know it’s the only love triangle where it isn’t obvious.

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  4. I hate spoilers. I can’t help myself from getting spoiled. Okay, I know just HOW controversial those two statements sound, but it’s true. Fandom.com is literally the bane of my existence but also my compulsive need to read that trivia section at the bottom of all of the character profiles. Words cannot express how much I hate reading GR reviews that don’t put spoilers in spoiler tags. I once read a review for Crown of Midnight that mentioned a certain character’s death and I still don’t feel the pain when I read it. And I’ve also gotten spoiled for a *certain someone’s* death in Crooked Kingdom. I guess these things can’t be prevented. Great discussion! I totally agree with everything you said here!

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    1. Aaaaaaah yep spoilers are so bad. And I know!!! It’s like you don’t want to be spoiled, but when there’s the potential for being spoiled, you can’t help reading the thing! sometimes I’ve even clicked ‘view spoiler’ in goodreads reviews for books that I haven’t read yet. And then I get annoyed at myself haha. Aaaaaaah yeah getting spoiled for the person’s death in CK is really rough….fortunately I wasn’t really on like goodreads or blogging or anything when I read those books so I didn’t get spoiled.

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